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thirdoftwelve 3 months ago

I'd like to take Mila on a date. Actually, many dates. That shade of blue-green reminds me of one of my favorite crayon colors when I was growing up!

Tuesday, January 24th, 2017 on Phez

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thirdoftwelve 4 months ago

It's a very nice film. The theme reminds me of a scene in _Goodbye, Emmanuelle_ with Sylvia Kristel and her man out in the surf. I like the atmosphere better in this case.

Thursday, December 29th, 2016 on The Cove

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thirdoftwelve 8 months ago

That's fascinating! I know I'm late, but I have a hard time getting into these types of films. I usually take an interest in B/G material, so I haven't followed Elle's path much. But I do love a real interview piece because I love to see a model as a person. Elle seems like someone with a strong sense of herself.

I love the choice of musical score. I was streaming this film and for some reason it got stuck halfway through, but the music does a good job of matching the mood Elle seems to project here: pensive, mysterious, a little melancholic, but being at repose in the sunset. I think the effect of taking in a sunset from indoors would be noticeably different from the same sunset outdoors - imagine the walls of this house and the furniture taken away and the scene becomes different to me.

Sunday, August 21st, 2016 on Girls Love Sex - Elle Alexandra

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thirdoftwelve 1 year ago

It's an interesting subject, and thanks, Rose, for bringing it up.

I went and read the full article, making allowances for my very limited proficiency in statistics. It seemed, at least at first glance, like a well-constructed study in methodological terms. Given its premises, I think the authors' conclusions were rather interesting and useful. I appreciated the fact that they were objective about a lot of the possible weaknesses in their case and didn't oversell the conclusions.

However, for me, the premises are precisely where there is a problem. Granted that the authors took pains to use a standardized set of questions (the General Social Survey, with which I was unfamiliar until now)--a sensible step to take, but not the only possible framework to use--I can't agree with some of the philosophical assumptions built into that survey, which by extension naturally affected the study. The equation of support of traditional family roles, at least in Western Europe and North America, with "nonegalitarianism" (what, really, does that word mean? There is a lot of question-begging in there) is one example. And in particular, I found the implication that I necessarily disrespect women because I'm pro-life to be ridiculous (putting it mildly). But I was willing to overlook that so as to deal with the paper as a whole.

Again, given the premises on which the study was based--and they obviously had to base it on some set of coherent principles--I think the authors' conclusions are reasonable. But with a different set of equally or even (in my opinion) more valid philosophical premises and a somewhat different choice of which values to emphasize, I think at least some of the study's conclusions might look different, even using the same data.

As to the question of whether folks who visit here and similar sites have a greater regard for women in some kind of general sense than they otherwise would, I can definitely see that as plausible. It would have been interesting to know what kinds of pornographic movies were used in this study. As we're all aware here, even under the seemingly simple rubric of 'nonviolent X-rated', there's quite a range of possible distinctions. I expect the results from a study group that watched only SA or MA or similar to be at least a little different from those coming from a group who spend their time on some other sites I could think of. All 'nonviolent', yes, but ranging from classy and intelligent to relatively visceral and even crude, with some also in between.

Friday, November 13th, 2015 on Men who like porn respect women more: the facts!

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Your blue eyes, Lija! I could kiss your eyes all day! :) Actually... that's not such a great idea, is it? Because her eyes would have to be closed, and then the blue wouldn't be visible. Drat. I guess I'll have to think of something else...

Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 on Kasade

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Thanks, Taylor, for telling us your tale! And Rose for providing the opportunity for her to tell it! Has Taylor had any pets before or currently?

Thursday, August 6th, 2015 on Taylor Sands: get to know our SexArt sex kitten!

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

That's pretty amazing to see the reflection of the window panes in Nancy's eyes in pic #3!

Saturday, July 18th, 2015 on Dagela

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Just going through the old comments and saw this, had to smile. I didn't know that was an old proverb. My first answer to that question, on impulse, would be because I just couldn't stand being in Rensselaer any longer. :-)

Thursday, April 23rd, 2015 on The Writer - The Dark Side

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Thanks for writing back, DG! Central European vintages are hard to find around here, but I'll see if I can find some like what you describe. I like Tracy a lot and trust she had a good day there.

Sunday, April 19th, 2015 on Binera

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

This was a particularly interesting series. I was some time adjusting to Tracy's new (?) hair color, but once I got used to it, I decided that it enhances her eyes, which have always fascinated me. I wonder what she was thinking about in some of the moments looking toward the window or things like that. She seemed pensive, more so than in some of the other times I've seen her. What kind of wine was she having? Was it a local vintage?

Saturday, April 18th, 2015 on Binera

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

This was a particularly interesting series. I was some time adjusting to Tracy's new (?) hair color, but once I got used to it, I decided that it enhances her eyes, which have always fascinated me. I wonder what she was thinking about in some of the moments looking toward the window or things like that. She seemed pensive, more so than in some of the other times I've seen her. What kind of wine was she having? Was it a local vintage?

Saturday, April 18th, 2015 on Binera

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Thanks for writing back, DG! Central European vintages are hard to find around here, but I'll see if I can find some like what you describe. I like Tracy a lot and trust she had a good day there.

Sunday, April 19th, 2015 on Binera

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thirdoftwelve 1 year ago

It's an interesting subject, and thanks, Rose, for bringing it up.

I went and read the full article, making allowances for my very limited proficiency in statistics. It seemed, at least at first glance, like a well-constructed study in methodological terms. Given its premises, I think the authors' conclusions were rather interesting and useful. I appreciated the fact that they were objective about a lot of the possible weaknesses in their case and didn't oversell the conclusions.

However, for me, the premises are precisely where there is a problem. Granted that the authors took pains to use a standardized set of questions (the General Social Survey, with which I was unfamiliar until now)--a sensible step to take, but not the only possible framework to use--I can't agree with some of the philosophical assumptions built into that survey, which by extension naturally affected the study. The equation of support of traditional family roles, at least in Western Europe and North America, with "nonegalitarianism" (what, really, does that word mean? There is a lot of question-begging in there) is one example. And in particular, I found the implication that I necessarily disrespect women because I'm pro-life to be ridiculous (putting it mildly). But I was willing to overlook that so as to deal with the paper as a whole.

Again, given the premises on which the study was based--and they obviously had to base it on some set of coherent principles--I think the authors' conclusions are reasonable. But with a different set of equally or even (in my opinion) more valid philosophical premises and a somewhat different choice of which values to emphasize, I think at least some of the study's conclusions might look different, even using the same data.

As to the question of whether folks who visit here and similar sites have a greater regard for women in some kind of general sense than they otherwise would, I can definitely see that as plausible. It would have been interesting to know what kinds of pornographic movies were used in this study. As we're all aware here, even under the seemingly simple rubric of 'nonviolent X-rated', there's quite a range of possible distinctions. I expect the results from a study group that watched only SA or MA or similar to be at least a little different from those coming from a group who spend their time on some other sites I could think of. All 'nonviolent', yes, but ranging from classy and intelligent to relatively visceral and even crude, with some also in between.

Friday, November 13th, 2015 on Men who like porn respect women more: the facts!

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thirdoftwelve 3 months ago

I'd like to take Mila on a date. Actually, many dates. That shade of blue-green reminds me of one of my favorite crayon colors when I was growing up!

Tuesday, January 24th, 2017 on Phez

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thirdoftwelve 4 months ago

It's a very nice film. The theme reminds me of a scene in _Goodbye, Emmanuelle_ with Sylvia Kristel and her man out in the surf. I like the atmosphere better in this case.

Thursday, December 29th, 2016 on The Cove

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thirdoftwelve 8 months ago

That's fascinating! I know I'm late, but I have a hard time getting into these types of films. I usually take an interest in B/G material, so I haven't followed Elle's path much. But I do love a real interview piece because I love to see a model as a person. Elle seems like someone with a strong sense of herself.

I love the choice of musical score. I was streaming this film and for some reason it got stuck halfway through, but the music does a good job of matching the mood Elle seems to project here: pensive, mysterious, a little melancholic, but being at repose in the sunset. I think the effect of taking in a sunset from indoors would be noticeably different from the same sunset outdoors - imagine the walls of this house and the furniture taken away and the scene becomes different to me.

Sunday, August 21st, 2016 on Girls Love Sex - Elle Alexandra

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Your blue eyes, Lija! I could kiss your eyes all day! :) Actually... that's not such a great idea, is it? Because her eyes would have to be closed, and then the blue wouldn't be visible. Drat. I guess I'll have to think of something else...

Tuesday, September 8th, 2015 on Kasade

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Thanks, Taylor, for telling us your tale! And Rose for providing the opportunity for her to tell it! Has Taylor had any pets before or currently?

Thursday, August 6th, 2015 on Taylor Sands: get to know our SexArt sex kitten!

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

That's pretty amazing to see the reflection of the window panes in Nancy's eyes in pic #3!

Saturday, July 18th, 2015 on Dagela

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thirdoftwelve 2 years ago

Just going through the old comments and saw this, had to smile. I didn't know that was an old proverb. My first answer to that question, on impulse, would be because I just couldn't stand being in Rensselaer any longer. :-)

Thursday, April 23rd, 2015 on The Writer - The Dark Side

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_fer_realz_ 1 year ago

thirdoftwelve, you raise many good issues, and you state them very well, so much so that I'm glad that I didn't write my very first reactions to Rose's original story because I would have revealed myself to be ~ ehm.... kinda foolish. I appreciate your scholarly approach which puts my initial reactions to shame.

Having said so, your point about being "pro-life" really piques my attention because ~ I'm sure you'll concede ~ there are a ton of preconceptions built into (and accreted onto) the two terms "pro-life" and "pro-choice," as if, to be one is to make it impossible to be both. Which I do not agree with.

In my case, I consider myself to be pro-life AND pro-choice. How is that possible, you ask?

I am a humanist, another term that is loaded with connotations, some of which apply to me, and some of which do not.

The reason I consider myself a humanist is that I believe that the one single value in our existence is the dignity and worth of human life.

There are all kinds of consequences ~ logical and otherwise ~ that follow from that starting point.

However, how it relates to our discussion here (IMO) is that I believe that because all lives are worthy of dignity, I also believe that our capacity and right and duty to choice is paramount. Once a person is an adult, their decisions cannot and should not be made by another. That is one basic reason I am pro-choice, as in, believing that every woman has the right (and only that woman has the right) to decide her own reproductive destiny.

That being said, I am also pro-life, because I believe human life is the one and only centerpoint of value and ethics and morality. It does not descend upon us from without, but it is born in us and grows and evolves and emerges from within.

Human life, human pain, human suffering... these are the tests and measures of any system of morality or ethics, IMO. If a system of ethics does not treat human dignity, life, suffering, and pleasure as central, and work toward the good of humans, then it is immoral, IMO.

That is why I believe that I can be pro-life and pro-choice simultaneously. I wish people would look beyond the labels.

The argument is not really about abortion: the argument is about whether an adult woman has the right and the duty to make the decisions about her reproductive future. All arguments that miss this point are (IMO) invalid, because most arguments in this field are about the ways that others (usually, but not always, older, white, powerful, rich, men) have the right to decide for a woman before the fact what her reproductive destiny is to be.

I think that the assumption you point out in the article that to be "pro-life" entails a certain disrespect for women is ~ indeed, an assumption ~ but it is arrived at, IMO, in a logical fashion:

If one believes that others have the right to decide a woman's reproductive destiny, and remove that right from a woman via coercion, legislation, stigma, religious, or social pressure, etc. etc., then those individuals DO (whether or not they are aware) suffer from a certain disrespect for that woman, or disregard for her fundamental right to decide her own destiny.

That, IMO, is the logical process behind that ~ offensive ~ assumption and statement. But simply because something is offensive... does that mean it is untrue?

That question regarding this particular issue ~ the right of a woman to choose her own reproductive destiny ~ and the way that right relates to that assumption you mention from that original article ~ is only answerable within our hearts.

Sunday, November 15th, 2015 on Men who like porn respect women more: the facts!

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Rose 1 year ago

Some very good points there, thirdoftwelve... I have read various critiques of this study, ranging from those that are broadly supportive of its conclusions to those that totally rip apart the premises and specifically the questions asked. I definitely think any research which looks at this topic with an open mind is worth consideration, and I found this study particularly interesting because the authors admitted they were surprised by the results of it (so often research sets out to prove a hypothesis at all costs!). Fans of erotica are frequently made to feel they should be ashamed of enjoying something which is, after all, a natural human function, so it's good to see the balance redressed a little. I hope more research will follow, and maybe something which considers the valid questions and criticisms that have been raised.

Saturday, November 14th, 2015 on Men who like porn respect women more: the facts!

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Rose 2 years ago

I will ask, TOT :-)

Thursday, August 6th, 2015 on Taylor Sands: get to know our SexArt sex kitten!

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DeltaGamma. 2 years ago

Hi 3rdof12, it's very nice to hear you found this set interesting.
You noticed Tracy's new hair color, and I am sure she will be glad to hear you liked it, she had just changed it and she wrote me some days before the shooting and sent me a snapshot of her new hairstyle/color, she was afraid I may not like it for the shooting, but I also found it enhanced the color of her eyes, and it's always good to see a girl with a new hairstyle which she likes, because she feels sexier and more confident.
Right before starting to shoot I outlined the set theme and asked Tracy to look out of the window from time to time, thinking of something romantic and erotic which would excite her softly, and she did the job perfectly. It's nice that you also noticed this detail, it's something she did specifically to make the set look a certain way, showing some enigmatic side of her.
She was having a Moravian Cabernet rosè, a local wine which was in the welcome package of the suite I rented for the shooting. Eastern Czech Republic (Moravian region) is famous for white wines and also has some interesting red and rosè ones worth to be tasted.

Saturday, April 18th, 2015 on Binera