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Fire Dance SexArt HD erotic film starring Jessie Andrews and Malena MorganIt's a familiar and popular expression — when an unexpected twist or complication arises in a narrative an observer or participant often says "the plot thickens." I've been thinking about "plot thickeners" and plots in general, after doing a bit of reading and research about women and porn — specifically, what do women look for in erotic entertainment?

When I first got involved with erotica on a professional basis the conventional wisdom was that men were "visual" and that women were "cerebral." All that men needed to become aroused was a glimpse of something sexy, a picture, a movie, a primitive drawing scrawled on the wall of a cave, and his libido kicked into high gear. But women were different. A blurry Polaroid picture wasn't enough. She needed atmosphere, ambiance, detailed narratives, and an engaging plot before her sexual juices could be induced to flow.

But time marches on. And yesterday's conventional wisdom may not still apply today. Pornography has undergone a massive transformation over the last several decades. We've moved from illicit "Tijuana Bibles," the so-called "eight-pagers," crudely illustrated, explicit comic books, up through black and white stills processed and printed in home darkrooms, to 8mm loops passed from collector to collector, to "Porno Chic" and the heyday of the adult movie theater, the home video explosion, up through today's universally accessible high definition streaming XXX video.

So it's fair to ask: in the Information Age, are men still "visual" and women still "cerebral," when it comes to erotic entertainment? Has the exponential growth of the XXX industry changed attitudes and appetites in erotica?

The short answer seems to be Yes. And No. The basic visual/cerebral divide still exists. Males simply respond to graphic depictions of sexual activity more powerfully than women do (of course, I'm generalizing). But women do consume porn, and they're consuming more and more with every passing day. And as the female market grows, it also becomes more defined — female consumers' tastes and needs are evolving and becoming more precisely understood.

The growing but underserved — and often misunderstood — female audience was one of the prime motivations for the creation of SexArt, in fact. And the task of creating erotica that appeals to men and women in equal measure is one of the most stimulating and inspiring challenges SexArt's international pool of artisans is faced with.

To complicate matters, in order to create entertainment for a global audience, SexArt's movies tell their stories in a visual, generally non-verbal manner. The storylines, no matter how simple or complex, are shown rather than spoken. Is this "visual" method of plot exposition enough to satisfy the "cerebral" female viewer? Our own market research and the notes and comments provided by female SexArt members indicate that, yes, the SexArt approach — stylish, artistic imagery combined with appealing, evocative, "relatable" narratives — is a success, with female and male viewers, alike.

But what do you think? Would you like to see more (or less) story in SexArt films? More dialog? More elaborate plots? More character development, more back-story, more non-sex interplay? How about costumes, special effects, action, stunts, or exotic locations? I'd particularly like to hear opinions and input from a female perspective, but all members are encouraged to share their thoughts on the subject in the comments, below.

Members Comments (40)

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solrage 4 years ago

This has been a fascinating discussion. I hate I'm late to it, but some personal issues (natural disasters) has me playing catch up on both MetArt and SexArt.

If you were to ask me what I want to see on SexArt, the simple answer would be: almost everything. By that, I mean I want the creative teams on here to be fearless in experimenting and trying new ideas. Most people, I think, find a certain aesthetic or certain content appeals to them and then they just want more, more, more, more. I find, however, that I get bored with anything that's too repetitive, that just becomes same-ol', same-ol', and the thing that appeals to me most about SexArt is the promise that there will be a variety of adult content. I think in the beginning with Kamikaze Love, the Girls Love Sex documentaries, and the video releases there was a good diversity. Since then, while I've enjoyed watching the development of SA's style and the introduction of new performers and creative teams (especially Ariel's Snow Fun series), I am starting to itch for something different, and an extended narrative would be nice.

Basically, I just want to see everything that can be done done, but done with the extraordinary high standard of quality that has made me a fanboy of SA and the whole MA network. So, personally, I'm not too picky in regards to content--I like B/G, GG, solo, narrative, non-narrative, silent, abstract, hyper edited ala Paul Black, langorous and sensual ala Bo, body painting, humor, seriousness, hotness, tenderness, realness, fantasy--but I AM picky in regards to the quality. It's not what's said, it's how it's said, as the saying go. What keeps me fanboy is that MA and SA "say" it better than just about everyone else out there, and I'm more interested in seeing them expand what they say while not losing that quality.

In the ways of a more specific, direct suggestion, I've mentioned before that I'm a huge cinephile and fan of erotica, so I would love to see some content perhaps inspired by the great erotica directors like Jaeckin and Brass. As for a more modern suggestion, is anyone here familiar with the films of Graham Travis? He's fairly new and has done only two feature films--Portrait of a Call Girl and Wasteland--but they're both extraordinary. To get an idea of how to do a narrative with dialogue/characters while keeping the sex hot/sexy, you couldn't find a better model than Wasteland. That's the only feature porn film I've seen where I genuinely cared about the characters and was even moved by the ending.

One more perhaps slightly "out there" suggestion is from the (misunderstood) world of erotic comics. I doubt anyone here will know what I'm talking about, but one of the best works of erotica I ever encountered in any medium was the Japanese comic called Slut Girl (not nearly as trashy as it sounds). It combined characterizations, humor (it was "laugh-out-loud" funny, without relying on the types of sad, trivializing parody that Jonathan mentioned) and sex in a way that was so memorable I still recall certain moments now, over 10 years after first having read it. I'd love to see something similar in tone.

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Jonathan 4 years ago

Hi solrage-- it's good to see you back. I've taken notes of your comments here. Let me look into the content you've mentioned and see what I can do. I love the suggestions, especially from a cinephile like myself, thank you.

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solrage 4 years ago

Thanks, Jonathan, it's good to be back (btw, we share the same name in real life!). I'd love to know what you and some of the other creative people around here think of Travis' work. :)

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Jonathan 4 years ago

When I was at the AVN convention in Vegas this year I saw a trailer of Travis' movie, I was intrigued. However, because of my schedule I never had time to watch it. Based on reading your comments yesterday, I actually sat down last night and watched it, and I really enjoyed it. It has promoted me to reach out to him and see if we might produce something together. I have no idea what's going on with him. I'll keep you posted if anything comes of it. P.S. So you're a "Jon No H" too eh? Thanks!

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solrage 4 years ago

Wow! That's exciting that you're reaching out to him. I don't want to get my hopes up as I can imagine how tricky such stuff can be (scheduling, contracts, etc.), but it's nice to know you watched the film and enjoyed it. If nothing else, perhaps we'll see the influence in some future work. I'm of the mind that artists of any kind can never have enough good creative influences. Definitely keep me posted, and I'll keep my fingers crossed. :)

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horsemaster 4 years ago

Keep us ALL posted. Sounds exciting! I don't know Travis' work, but Solrage makes it sound special. I'll have to find "Wasteland" and "Portrait of a Call Girl".

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solrage 4 years ago

horsemaster, if you do find them and watch them, please let me know what you think. :)

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Snowfall1 4 years ago

I think this is the first time I have posted other than to a film or photoset...
More series like Kamikaze - shorter episodes, a (type of) storyline - and Girls love Sex, will be great. I recall suggesting that 'Snow Time' should be showcased as a series not just individual films (And its not too late!)
I sometimes think that the lovers we see would say things - not conversations and not running commentaries (you know what I mean) - but my experience is that not a lot gets said during sexual encounters (perhaps I have missed out!) and I suspect the tone will make the meaning fairly clear, whatever the language!
But keep up the good work is the main thing ... Persuading Malena back would be a good thing - because of her enjoyment of her work (shared by (and with) some others).

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horsemaster 4 years ago

Forgot to add: it was suggested that in order to make the stories more real and ones that the viewers could relate to, you should use actors who look more like us viewers, rather than "like gods" (someone said). This, it was argued, would make the films more enjoyable, because viewers could relate better to the stories and actors. I strongly DISagree. A huge part of what SexArt is doing is the "art". Art is about beauty, and beautiful (some of the most beautiful in the world) people should be the subject of the art produced here. Yes, that means fantasy. There is enough "reality television" and documentary film in the world. I certainly don't look like any of the male actors used to date in SexArt films, and I certainly do NOT want to see films starring people who DO look like me, either in age or body (god forbid!). And I am equally sure the viewership here would not want to see it either. There is a reason the largest growing section of any local book store is dedicated to romance fiction. People (and women, in particular) want romance and fantasy; something that is above and beyond their actual lives. Please continue to give us beautiful, passionate, sexy actors to star in your art! OUR art.

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hayley13. 4 years ago

110% agreed with this section. Most definitely.

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horsemaster 4 years ago

I love all the comments on this topic, especially those from the women and couples. I've been waiting to see how it develops before chiming in. Generally I agree with Hayley 13 and Snowfall (both here and comments on films). I really like the idea of a "narrative" of some kind, so the viewer can get into the "story" of the actors that leads to and results in some passionate and loving sex. As a male, I am intensely visual (hey, it's about images and film), but also "cerebral" in the sense that is being discussed in this thread. I'm also aural, and find that the accompanying "soundtrack" is immensely important to the success of the films. This means the lead and ending music, but also the ambient sounds during the film (surf crashing, birds chirping, noisy traffic (bad), and the sounds of the actors in their banter, flirting, and passion. The genuine (as opposed to forced, overacted, or overdubbed) sounds of men and women in passion are a huge part of the experience for me. Which leads to the issue of dialogue. I would keep actual dialogue to a minimum, and if it is present letit be in the language of the actors. Subtitles would be VERY tricky to do. Don't think I'd like it. Some of the films you've already done have silent dialogue ("Snow Fun" for example), where we SEE the discussion, but don't actually HEAR it, and when combined with the facial expressions and body gestures communicates the conversation just fine. I'd stay with that. Let it be universal. As has been noted, badly spoken lines could be an inadvertent point of humor (at best) or a disaster if badly done (like phony screams of passion, or overdubbed panting and groaning, as has been too common in so much of traditional porn.)

Some months back I asked if there was a way for members to suggest story lines for consideration. Ariel graciously posted a personal address for members to use for that purpose. I went into "script mode" and drafted several scenarios, one a multi-part series with backstory, plot, and some character development, and a couple other scenarios with single scenes, but with back story and plot. It was my attempt to respond to the type of storyline we saw in "Snow Fun" (perhaps Sex Art's best effort to date). I was worried that the effort to add the back story, sets, costumes, and length might be too difficult to do. However, (and this is the point I want to make) the attempt and prospective films from the treatments seem to be in keeping with some of the comments being made in this thread. Alas, I never heard back (and have not seen any films based upon the treatments), so I don't know if the treatments were too complicated, too expensive to produce, too dumb, too male-oriented, just not worth considering, or just fell into cyberspace and were not read. And it matters not. The second point is that by adding backstory, dialogue, more plot, more "character" development to SexArt's films WOULD add cost, complexity, production time, and challenge to the actors. (Just good sex wouldn't be sufficient; actors would have to ACT, too, especially if live dialogue were included.) It's likely that fewer films could be made in a year. So, if a good erotic film that meets the wants and needs of the female (and some male, like me) perspective is to be achieved, it might mean less new content. Would that meet the wants and needs of the other members? OR could perhaps there be a mix of both high quality films that are skewed to visually-oriented males (good,loving screwing) AND other films that are skewed to more cerebrally-complex story lines that appeal to many females and couples, or gay-women-trapped-in-a-man's-body males, like me? I'd hope (and want that) SexArt could do both. And do both WELL.

Great topic and thread!

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hayley13. 4 years ago

The last section of this was really, really interesting to read. And its true. I was thinking about this recently. i want more from SexArt. 7 films a week. 7 photosets. I want more. And who wouldn't, they are the best there is. But... Then i thought harder. If i got more... would the quality then drop? I think it would. And from another perspective, do i want less? And therefore higher quality films... Yes, but, no at the same time, but yes. Hopefully, because SexArt is still so young, all of my hopes and dreams will be accomplished in time. But until then, im very content with what SexArt offers, it's undoubtedly my favourite site.

And, hmm... I might go to work on something as well horsemaster. Wouldn't it be awesome to see your ideas on film? Best of luck with your series. It sounds like you've put a lot of work into it. I hope it comes to fruition at some point.

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horsemaster 4 years ago

And, as of 19/7/13 I may have, albeit with some excellent enhancements!

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El Prevert 4 years ago

I'd like to see a stronger narrative, but perhaps it could be a case of shooting that, then offering two edits
1. Dialogue, build up etc
2. The current format

I joined this site because I don't particularly care for the 'gonzo' style which just seems mechanical. As long as the scenes have a real connection between the stars and it doesn't flow like an ikea instruction manual (Insert part a in to slot b. Insert f in to x...) then anything that builds the passion (or tension) in a scene is a bonus

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greywolf 4 years ago

I would like to see more dialog developed between the characters, as a number of people have stated good dialog has to be real and believable. The compositions of the films is very good and artistic, i would like to hear the comments the girls are making about each other and how much they are enjoying their partners actions. Keep up the good work, it's highly enjoyable.

4 years ago

Hi everyone!

I agree with most of what has already been said about "keeping it real" but more of Agent Dangerous certainly won't go amiss! And perhaps there CAN be more dialogue, and the language barrier can be broken down by adding subtitles to the movie player. Granted, sometimes the original is the best--one might argue that it's better to have, for example, a couple speaking to each other in Russian (when you're a native English speaker and have never taken a single class in Russian) than the subtitles, because it takes away from it somehow. Like it's better not knowing what they're saying, cause you can get the gist, or you can imagine what they're saying. But regardless, there should be more dialogue, and the subtitles should be there for those who would like to know what they're saying, regardless of the language they speak. Perhaps you can use members' IP addresses to find out what country they live in (or simply take a poll) so you don't have to spend needless time programming ALL known languages into the subtitles.

Speaking of Agent Dangerous, I'd like to expound a bit on another spy who has actually been in both mainstream cinema and in sex scenes that were patently explicit. I know that Ian Fleming's James Bond novels were never really meant to hit *mainstream* cinema as explicitly and as unflinchingly as the novels were. And in a way, it's good that nobody tried, be they a porn director or a Hollywood director. Honestly, I was plenty aroused by some of the sex scenes in the novels...some men *are* cerebral as well as visual. But I can't help but wonder what some of these things would have looked like VISUALLY, sometimes wondering more about those things that weren't overtly sexual, such as in the Casino Royale novel where Vesper was bound by LeChiffre's men by the skirt of her dress being pulled up over her head and tied off, exposing her underwear-free crotch. Or the scene in the Dr. No novel where Honey Ryder emerged from the sea completely naked save for her knife. In both of those scenes (well, at least the former), sex between Bond and the female subject in question was the farthest thing from either Bond's or the reader's mind. But these little instances were nevertheless there in the novels and would have been interesting to bring to the screen.

Finally, I would like to express my preference that, as would be befitting a "pure" cinematic recreation of a Fleming Bond novel in all its uncensored splendor, more of the female models adopt the "70's look", i.e. their pubes aren't completely shaved off. More is better, but anytime they don't look like a 10-year-old with boobs is a plus for me. To this day I cannot for the life of me figure out why or how women shaving their pubic hair came to be so common...unless looking like a child became popular (which I doubt seriously). And also, in keeping with the "real" aspect of the site, maybe the appearance of the models (both male and female) can stand to be a little less...godlike...without detracting from the quality of the site. I myself believe that the more the models look like or could look like me, my friends, my fiance, etc. then the more "real", and subsequently the better, the movie becomes. Sure, on here, an amateur would be a pariah, if allowed in at all. But that may be the biggest double-edged sword this site faces. Makeup and other "enhancements", even those that "dumb down" the look of the models, can only do so much when you look like Malena Morgan or Lorena B, even though doing so would make the movies more "real". But if you have someone that's the PERFECT girl-next-door but she has no idea what she's doing...like I said, it's a double-edged sword. Wow, this is quite long. I better hit post before I make this any longer! Until next time, nerd-migos!!

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Jonathan 4 years ago

Sorry everyone, I have been slow to respond to the comments here, I​'​ve been traveling throughout Europe with my film crews.

​@​hayley13, thanks again for the insightful comments. I agree with you on what elements make a great film, not only in erotica, but in mainstream cinema as well. Before we started SexArt I knew we had a huge challenge in front of us. Creating reality in erotica is not an easy task. Bringing two people together, most of the time strangers, into such an intimate setting takes great communication from the Director and an understanding of ​"S​elf​"​ from the actors. Eliciting pure unadulterated sexual emotion is foreign to even the most seasoned adult actors. It's much easier to pucker your lips and groan uncontrollably over-the-top, then it is to dig inside yourself and find your true sexual ​center. We try to bring you reality in every film, we miss the mark sometimes but that is always the direction we steer.

MetArt.com is no stranger to this, and it's why it has been the number one photography site in the world for a decade. There has always been a philosophical difference between MetArt and the rest of the Pack. People tell us their thoughts on what makes MetArt great, verbosely most of the time. However, in one word, MetArt brought REALISM to its members. Beautiful woman in their purest form. Playboy brought us ​r​ealism in the 50's, 60's and 70's, but along the way lost their direction to the concept that ​realism was defined by fake breasts and pumped-up lips. Most of us want to connect to our experiences, and it's very hard to attach our reality to the adult entertainment that has been ​produced by ​s​tudios for decades now. I think the biggest mistake adult entertainment ever made was the Parody. In my opinion, Parodies diminish the seriousness and therefore the value of erotic art. I've never understood why Studios think ridiculousness is sexy. I'm not against comedy in adult movies, I'm against the blatant attempt in making an adult film a mockery. Therefore, disconnecting the audience to a true erotic experience they can take home to their own bedrooms.

@Blackhawk and The White Winged Dove​, I'm happy you enjoy SexArt and I promise to continue to direct the brand in the way that engages the couple and female demographic. This does not mean we are forgetting our male audience, our films are meant to be enjoyed by both genders equally. The only difference is we want to create an experience that is valuable and enjoyable for everyone, not just males.

@hayley13 my last comment is to you. I have an amazing film coming out with Lorena, we have new ground being broke with her again. And, FYI... Lorena is as nice and sweet as you'd imagine her to be. On top of it, very smart and creative. She has a major directorial hand in her films, so what you're seeing is realism at its best. What's being portrayed on film is truly what she finds erotic. She's giving you a glimpse into her soul.

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hayley13. 4 years ago

Wow thank you so much Jonathan. Especially your last comment. Its so incredibly interesting to find out that Lorena has that role in her films. Now i can watch them with so much more insight, and they will have even more meaning than before. This is what i would love to see more of Jonathan. Connecting to the girls we are viewing (it's why we all love 'Girls Love Sex'). If that's at all possible, it would be a joy and a treasure. Thank you again.

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Tripinonsunshine 4 years ago

Psyched! Can't wait for this film.

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reub0 4 years ago

I definately agree about showing the male reactions - there is too much porn which focuses nearly entirely on the female with the male being told to keep quiet, reducing them to a mere stunt cock.

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Tripinonsunshine 4 years ago

As a female who is new only this year to internet porn I am fascinated by this site and the passion behind SexArt's team to bring us sex in such an amazingly, tantalizing combination of gorgeous and talented models/actors, scenarios, photography, and musical compositions. Thank you for creating a dialogue with us about how and why you exist and your desire for feedback. I'd like to share this too:- watching women have sex with each other on camera does nothing for me. Viewing women in delicate, playful, vulnerable, romantic scenes with plush furniture and fabrics, and beautiful lighting, beaches, palm trees, european landscapes and exquisitely composed music, when the models/actors are connecting (genuinely),- is Erotic! Make no mistake about it, we women know (the intuitive beings that we are), when real connections are happening and in-the-moment lovemaking is before our eyes on camera. One last note, I hope is worth while,-I am surprised to find that I am totally turned on by the mostly silent films that then give us those incredible moments of audio especially during intense pleasuring and orgasms. I do find though that as long as the actors are naturally vocal it works. Meaning, I sense that when they want to be more vocal at times as female actors and, instead, force the silence, that the quiet can lead to more intensity between partners and ultimately the power of the orgasms. With gratitude for the way SexArt celebrates the magnificent art of sex,-T

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_r2c 4 years ago

I had been wondering where I could ask if we were ever going to see more series. That is what I originally joined for -- I had seen a few episodes of Kamikaze Love and wanted more. I liked having the story, development, and continuity, even if there were an episode here or there that seemed "light" on sex. A series like that was also something I had not seen elsewhere. Unfortunately, that also was near the end of the Kamikaze Love series and there has not been anything new since.

Thats my 2¢, but I'm male so not really who you are asking.

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X-Art Colette 4 years ago

"To speak of morals in art is to speak of legislature in sex. Art is the sex of the imagination." ~ George Jean Nathan

Blackhawk and White Winged Dove ~ Sorry to hear you feel that way.

Hayley13, Your comments here are rad! [edited by admin]

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Blackhawk and The White Winged Dove 4 years ago

Colette - Why? Are you going down that road too?

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X-Art Colette 4 years ago

Oh, sorry! I thought you were talking about X-Art (because we had some BBG and anal) some members complained. We had one very vocal member leave our site because of that and come here and I thought you guys were that couple. All good. Carry on then ;-) xxx

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Blackhawk and The White Winged Dove 4 years ago

Collette, Blackhawk was pulling your leg, of course we meant X-Art. We didn't think it was appropriate to name the site, even when Jon emailed us directly to ask. However, you brought it up and came here to advertise your site, so here goes.

First, did you think we were... well... you know...? Funny! Sorry, I'm no pornstar and my old man isn't completely nuts! I must say that we learnt a lot of shocking truths after doing some research based on their posts, we always looked out for them. Not seen anyone that looks like them here though.

We joined SexArt a while ago, without really meaning to leave X-Art. There is a lot of very unpleasant stuff on your site these days, and a lot that seems to be badly filmed and rushed, but we could live with that for the occasional gem. In the end though, I just couldn't stomach the attitudes displayed in the comments. After one session looking at them I decided we had to leave. Hayley13, if you thought my husband's crack about real orgasms the other week was rude and disrespectful, you will hate X-Art. On there, if you say you don't like a film of a model being aggressively DP'd, you get 20 replies saying you're narrowminded, hypocrytical, only don't like anal sex because you think you might be gay, even that people like you should be forced to leave. There is a real feeling of menace and sleaze on there these days. The interesting couples who contributed have gone and all that is left are endless comments about anal sex from creeps.

Anyway, back to the point of the thread, what SexArt should do. If you want to attract normal people, couples, females, guys who aren't creepy pornhounds, then you have to keep it clean, both the material and the comments. The pornhounds may get bored and drift away, but that's the choice you have to make. X-Art has chosen to go one way, we hope SexArt goes the other.

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hayley13. 4 years ago

Guys... There has to be a nicer way of saying this. You dont need to put Colette and her team down like that. It's just not right. I must be honest, i dont really know too much about X-Art, but i have watched a few films and from what i saw, i thought they were very beautiful. And well... these people do this because it is their passion, and too turn around and put them down like that... its just not right. And just because you dont like what they are doing, doesn't mean others dont. I'm sorry, i know its probably not my place, but i just think... There has to be a nicer way of saying this. Please dont take this too harshly. The last thing i want is conflict between members, that just wouldn't be right. I apologise in advance if you are offended in any way.

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Blackhawk and The White Winged Dove 4 years ago

No offence at all. It's nice that you try to think the best of everyone but they came on here trying to poach members which isn't cool. Until then we hadn't named them. As you say, you don't know much about the site, we were members for over two years and left having been made to feel thoroughly unwelcome, The site and membership changed out of all recognition. It used to be beautiful erotica, like here. Now the most popular material is nasty abusive mainstream porn. All comments on there are pre-moderated so you can be sure that the endless demands for anal sex and more extreme acts and the insults to anyone who doesn't like it are supported by the site team. They even went so far on one horrible update that they goaded one member in the introduction by naming him and saying "We know you're going to really hate this". Don't lose any sleep thinking they're being hard done by. We are posting as we want to encourage this site not to go down the same route, there is nothing personal.

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Blackhawk and The White Winged Dove 4 years ago

We'd love films to have a bit more back story and scene setting, and romantic interludes afterwards, even if it means a little less actual sex. The sex itself doesn't have to be so long - several minutes of a couple in the same position can be a bit much. We thought about dialog, and hadn't considered the language problem, also they aren't "actors" and badly delivered dialog is worse than none at all. Probably best not to talk too much. Don't let the films get too long, it may be a personal thing to us, but we find 15 minutes ideal, 20 minutes absolute max, it's hard to put aside any more time than that to sit and watch together.

Yes, this upsets some people here, but don't obsess over real orgasms. No-one can really tell whether an orgasm is real on a film (you can never be absolutely sure even if you are there!). A good film in which the girl fakes it is better than a long tedious wait for a possibly "real" one. Real orgasms are a nice ideal, but the quality of the film is more important.

Don't film from a male voyeur's point of view, we want to see the male performer's reactions too. Get inside the girls head, cut to fantasies, what she might be thinking - "Melancholy" was a great start, and could have gone further. Think of the girl's POV, what she sees and hears, and try to portray that - you can insert brief flickering fantasy images into any film. Think about the sound - when you are close together the sounds are distorted, get someone to breath in your ear and try to replicate that.

Try a few adventurous ideas. A girl's POV, fantasy sequences with distorted colour and sound, a girl watching a guy masturbate. It doesn't matter if they turn out less popular, you should always get credit from members for experimenting even if it doesn't quite work. The occasional experimental film can only be good.

Finally, never drop quality in favour of quantity and ignore calls for more extreme (male porn viewer targeted) sex acts - our previous site has gone down this road, their quality has collapsed, they have a lot of low grade performers, and the members who are only interested in more extreme sex are never satisfied - they just loudly demand more and more and there's no way back.

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reub 4 years ago

What happened to Season 3 of Girls Love Sex?

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Jonathan 4 years ago

Hello reub, we are working on Season 3 of Girls Love Sex. Unfortunately, when our good friend Zalman King passed away the series was put on hiatus-- we are working on a new season. This project is my favorite, and I believe it has a lot of value for our members.

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reub 4 years ago

Still working on it?

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Jonathan 4 years ago

Hello reub, GLS is shot, edited and ready for release, we just haven't yet. We have so many great films coming out it has been hard tho schedule in. I unfortunately do not have a hard release date yet, it's soon though.

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hayley13. 4 years ago

Give everything a try I say. Only then can you know how members will respond. But... if i had to pick, based on what you have outlined Adam, i would say... relatable videos. Something myself and my girlfriend could participate in. For example, films such as 'Apple Pie', 'Winter Wonderland', 'The Road Goes On'. All are everyday life situations. And everything is so relatable and engaging. A serious such a 'Undercover Dangerous' doesn't work for me for this reason. What i'm also looking for in films is connection (and as im a strict g/g consumer) to be more specific 'girlfriends'. I'm looking for Sex and Love (sex in its most intimate form), not Porn. Therefore i think, more back-story and character development would help to assist in developing and conveying that connection. Dialogue would also be lovely. However dialogue can make or break a film. It has to be good, it has to be true, it has to be meant... Otherwise its meaningless. I suppose what i'm asking for is REAL. And by that i mean. REAL films from girls who actually enjoy each other, care for each other, and actually want to have sex and make love to each other. That's when we feel the connection. That's when we know its REAL. And just a note... real orgasms, not faked or acted. I can find fake orgasms everywhere, what i struggle to find, are real ones. SexArt can be the place to find them. Now that, is marketing.

Thanks for reading/listening :)

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hayley13. 4 years ago

I can't find the name of the video (thats why i've posted the link below). But its from FTV girls, featuring Malena and Elle. This best represents what im asking for when i refer to REAL and everything that follows. This proves that regardless of the quality of a film, its connection which truly makes it.
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=2009831788

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